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Q: is it safe to buy caninsulin from online retailers?
just wanted to know if there were any risks associated from buying these medicines from online retailers such as www.canadadrugstop.com
http://www.canpharm.ca/
those are just some examples I found by doing a search on google, any other website recommedations are appreciated.
A: I wouldn’t do it, especially with such an imortant drug. You have no guarantee that it’s good or not.
Q: I have a diabetic cat. I administer 2 shots of caninsulin per day (12 hour intervals).?
Will his lifespan be considerably shortened? What specific symptons should I be looking for as he ages? Is blindness something I should be worried about as he gets older? He is 8 years old now.
A: I don’t know what research has shown so I can only answer this through anecdotal evidence. I used to cat-sit a diabetic cat who took insulin twice per day. He lived to age 19, never went blind, and seemed to enjoy life pretty well right to the end. I don’t know what is typical though.
Q: My newly diagnosed diabetic dog is not responding to his insulin?
been diagnosed since Christmas- his blood sugars are in the 20’s and higher. Just been changed from caninsulin to lente but his blood sugars are still very high. Why?
A: The insulin level needs to be changed
call your vet….if not corrected it can harm your dog more than helping it……..your dog can have a seizure if the blood sugar stays up high too long…so call your vet, or call a 24/7 er vet now….most will be glad to tell you over the phone….
I would not wait…
Q: Can insulin for humans be used for animals?
My dog is diabetic and currently using caninsulin prescribed by his vet,can I give him insulin prescribed for humans which is much cheaper to purchase?
A: Human insulin was the first used for dogs as far as I know. Now several companies are making insulin.
here is a little info:
Only 15 months ago, the FDA approved the first insulin medication for diabetic dogs, Vetsulin(R) (porcine insulin zinc suspension). Because it is formulated for dogs rather than people, Vetsulin is less concentrated than human insulin products, making it easier to dose dogs with less risk of under- or over-dosing. An added benefit is that about one-third of dogs treated with Vetsulin can be regulated with one daily injection versus the two injections required when treating with a human insulin.
Pet owners who are in the position of switching their dogs from human insulin to the canine-formulated insulin can expect only minor changes in their daily routine, noted Michael J. Coyne, VMD, PhD, market development manager for Intervet and a practicing veterinarian in Bear, Del.
“Since Vetsulin was launched in January 2005, veterinarians have been able to successfully regulate many diabetic dogs with Vetsulin, including dogs that were previously difficult to manage,” said Dr. Coyne. “And with a fast-approaching deadline to switch regulated patients from products such as Humulin L to Vetsulin, we want to assure dog owners and their veterinarians that the transition can be smooth and safe.
Q: Has anyone’s cat gone into diabetic remission?
My Maine Co*n Mickey has had diabetes for a while and has been on insulin therapy for approx 3 months now (caninsulin/vetinsulin) and she was in very bad shape there for a while. It appears though that her pancreas has kicked back in with a vengance and we’re stepping down her insulin slowly (she was on 5u twice a day!!) and so far so good. The vet believes the fact that she hasn’t had a hypo means her pancreas is working again and I think he’s right because the other day at 4.5 hours post nadir she was at 4.4 and that was with a stress spike so the real number was probably under 4 meaning that AT her nadir she’d have been dangerously low but there were no ill affects.
I understand that remission, once it starts to occur, happens very quickly indeed and I’m wondering if anyone in the Y/A! Cat community has experienced this?
I am thrilled because I didn’t think it would happen as her previous vet mishandled it all so badly and she ended up really unwell. I’d also heard that while remission was possible, if she wasn’t on Lantus/Glargine it was unlikely. Fingers crossed the remission is complete and permanent. Thanks for your answer, I appreciate it!
Thanks Ingrid. It happened most likely because for a while there she was overweight, even for a maine coon. Her weight is now reduced and in the healthy range so hopefully if she does go into total remission I can keep it like that but I suspect if she gains the weight back we’ll be back to square one.
A: I haven’t had experience of remission, though I’ve know several diabetic cats & dogs. Remission can also occur in humans where the diabetes is caused by the stress of an operation or illness (as in pregnancy).
You must be thrilled — I do hope the remission is complete & permanent.
Q: What to do with early signs of CRF?
I am posting this question as I have seen that there is a group for CRF cats on Yahoo. When I find it I will join it.
I have three cats, 2 of whom (ages 14 and 15) have CREA levels at the upper end of normal (stage 2 of IRIS) and urine density at 1.024 and 1.029. My third cat (age 14) is diabetic but has good kidney results. She is in a remission and is not receiving insulin. We reached remission by ignoring the advice from my vet: I home tested with a human glucometer (I was told it was not reliable), dosed PZI with a sliding scale when appropriate (I was told it is dangerous and to just blindly inject 2 units Caninsulin BID) and I ditched all dry food against all advice for feeding Hills special diet. Instead I switched them to grain free canned food and transitioned them to a raw diet over a few months (16 in fact: so you should know I am serious about reaching my goal here!). So I was hardly surprised to see that there are differing views to the one advocated by my vet regarding CRF. Because of my experience with the diabetes I am not interested in following the conventional treatment and as such I am not going to lower their protein intake; I am looking at reducing/binding the phosphorus instead. And this is where I need help.
I am unable to find the resources that are clear in what proportions cooked egg white and other binders should be added to their diet and what impact this has on a non-CRF diabetic in remission as I am unable to separate their feeding (the lasting legacy of the dry food days is that they nibble all day long). Hills is a dirty word in this house: the cats get a 100% raw diet, (75% home made with Instincts TC and organic poultry) and 25% purchased rabbit (not organic). There are no grains or vegetables in their diet. This is the only way I can get them to a eat a 100% raw diet as they hate poultry with bones. The one with high CREA levels gets a whole mouse every day as well. As I am making their food I can control what goes into it, whether it be additional minerals and vitamins or potential phosphorus binders.
I do have the support of an holistic vet but I will be unable to speak to her for a few weeks and I wanted to start with at least a few rudimentary steps. I know what I want to do, just now how exactly and as such advice supporting the points I wish to follow is greatly appreciated and advice telling me to reduce protein and use a prescribed food will not be taken into consideration
The link to Shirley’s Wellness cafe is great- Thanks: there are very useful links and articles that I will discuss with my holistic vet.
I have already taken up contact with FelineFuture and expect to hear from them early next week.
Information is knowledge and I greatly appreciate the input
A: Hi there,
Since I am not a feline nutritionist, therefore cannot give you a precise answer to your highly technical question, but did find some excellent information to suppliment what you already know.
I am totally with you on the “Dirty word”, Hills. I suspect that this product, and in fact, most of the rx foods are
actually cutting short our cats’ lifespans. Vets just don’t get sufficient accurate information when in school, as most of the training is provided by Hills and other companies which of course push their products so vets will carry them for sale.
I too have a wonderful holistic vet who has been of great help with my two cats.She also has a wellness center at her clinic. Preventative care is essential!
Here are two resource links for you that may be of help. They make a great deal of sense with some excellent technical information and great dietary suggestions which are appropriate for our obligate carnivores.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/feline.htm
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/renalfailure.htm
Additionally, here is a link to many CRF yahoo support groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/phrase/crf-only
I have a cat with IBD and the IBD and an extremely rare condition, Diabetes Insipidus. We have him on grainless Natural Balance now, but may move to Raw.
The support for IBD on Yahoo is excellent, so I suspect so are the CRF groups. Of course, anyone suggesting Hills is someone that I would not trust. I have not checked out the site, but I imagine that is not something that is common in the group.
It sounds like your nutritional program is solid and excellent. I wish I could help you more, but I do know my limits as far as such specific information required.
Good luck with your kitties, and all the best. Hope this helps some, until your vet returns.
Troublesniffer
Owned by cats for over 40 years
Freelance writer/blogger for http://www.petside.com/
Q: Diabetic cat – Stabilising with insulin?
Another diabetes question!
First of all let me just say that Mickey is under vet supervision and has been since she was diagnosed (well, she’s always had a vet obviously) so you don’t need to tell me to take her to the vet!
My question is this, Mickey is a 4.5kg (down from 8kg) Maine Coon female that I rescued who is 12 years old and is just completely lovely but she has diabetes. She’s been on Caninsulin (Vetinsulin in the USA) for approx 5 weeks. She started on 3 units twice a day then because her BG (blood glucose) wasn’t low enough at the nadir, she went up to 4 units and then for the same reason has been upped to 5 units but it would appear from her water consumption that her BG still isn’t under control. She’s back at the vets on Friday for another test (she’s been going weekly) so I’ll know for sure but has anyone else had such a hard time stabilising a diabetic cat on caninsulin? I’m storing the insulin correctly (fridge), doing the injections properly at the correct times, feeding her as per guidelines etc.
The other question I have is about Royal Canin for diabetics – this food is recommended for diabetic cats and it’s extremely low in carbs and high in protein but she likes plain tuna with it. The vet says this is OK (Science Diet MD made her stomach go bad) and I can’t imagine that it would affect the blood glucose levels but I can’t be sure.
I will say that Mickey is very bright and alert, is cleaning herself and has never ever in her whole life peed outside the litter box. We’ve also ruled out concurrent hyperthyroidism and her kidneys are in good shape.
So as I said, she’s back at the vets on Friday but I was just wanting to know if anyone else had this much trouble stabilising a diabetic cat. And I know cats are hard to stabilise on insulin.
Thanks!
Thanks for that. I’m aware of and frequent both sites. I don’t regard this as a ‘difficult’ time, it’s just something that needs to be done.
I am very educated on feline diabetes and as I said, am seeing a vet weekly but I want to hear from the owners of other diabetic cats re: their experiences stabilising their cats on insulin, especially Caninsulin (vetinsulin). But thanks!
A: I personally don’t have any experience with feline diabetes but I did a search and found these 2 sites. The first has a forum where you can ask questions and hopefully communicate with other people who’s cats have diabetes. Hopefully, this can give you the emotional support you need at such a difficult time. The second site is a wiki with info that you might find helpful.
http://www.felinediabetes.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_in_cats_and_dogs
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